CultureClub X · S06 E16

Why People Analytics and AI Fail Without Data Foundations

Ian O'Keefe, founder and CEO of Ikona Analytics and former Head of People Analytics at Amazon, on why analytics and AI fail without the right foundations: decisions before dashboards, governance and ownership of the data ecosystem, and the tacit knowledge machines cannot see.

July 10, 2026people analyticsaigovernance

TL;DR

What you need to know from this episode

  • Start with decisions, not dashboards. The biggest foundational mistake is rushing to stand up reports and tools before asking which decisions leaders need to make. If the report is wrong, fixing the report is not the issue; everything upstream of it is.
  • Reporting is the what; analytics is the why. Reporting looks back at what happened and is an extension of your systems and transactions. Analytics tests hypotheses and predicts what will happen, and it needs rock-solid data. Conflating the two pulls high-priced data scientists into reconciliation quagmires.
  • Think big, start small. When the data foundation is broken, resist fixing everything in all directions. Work backwards from key decisions to the most critical workflows and data flows, then shore those up with data definitions and quality routines.
  • AI amplifies old problems. New technology layered on a broken foundation makes it worse, and AI will be confidently and eloquently wrong in convincing ways. Governance, ownership, and understanding of the data ecosystem come before the next dollar of AI spend.
  • Tacit knowledge is the missing data asset. Much of how HR actually works lives in people's heads, not in systems or SOPs. Capturing that context through human conversations and digitizing it is what lets AI act on reality instead of what happens to be written down.

Ian O'Keefe has spent 25 years building people analytics functions inside some of the most data-sophisticated companies in the world: Amazon, JPMorgan Chase, Google, and American Express. At Amazon, he led a multidisciplinary team whose data products supported more than 400,000 corporate employees. In 2024 he founded Ikona Analytics to help HR organizations get ready for the AI era.

That vantage point gives him an unusually clear answer to a question most HR leaders are asking right now: why does workforce analytics succeed in some companies and quietly fail in others? His answer has almost nothing to do with tools.

The biggest foundational mistake: starting with tools, not decisions

Asked for the single biggest mistake organizations make before they even start measuring, Ian does not hesitate: starting with data, tools, and outputs instead of the decisions those outputs are supposed to serve.

Rushing to stand up reports and dashboards is the classic version of the trap. When a leader says the report is wrong, fixing the report is not the issue. Everything upstream of it is: production systems, workflows, the architecture, the point at which transactions are generated by HR teammates and managers. Working only at the point where data is consumed, without acknowledging that ecosystem, is where credibility starts to leak.

His grounding question for any new study, model, or product is disarmingly simple: what would you do differently if you knew the answer? If the leader cannot name a process, policy, or approach they would change, the request needs reframing before it needs building.

Think big but start small, and really prioritize what's absolutely necessary rather than doing an ocean boil.

Ian O'Keefe
Founder and CEO, Ikona Analytics

Rebuilding a broken data foundation

At JPMorgan Chase, Ian inherited fragmented HR data across lines of business and functions, which he notes is the common starting point for most organizations. The first move is restraint: resist the urge to fix everything in all directions at once, and do not confuse reorganization with a solve for fragmentation.

The second move is to treat data as an asset with owners, all the way back to where it originates. Recruiting, compensation, talent, learning, operations: everyone who hits submit or controls a platform is a data generator. If that data does not land somewhere common, the gaps express themselves downstream as a foundation that is cracked and broken.

From there, the sequence is the one he repeats throughout the conversation: identify the key decisions leadership needs to make, define the data and metrics those decisions require, then work backwards into the ecosystem to shore up the most critical workflows with unglamorous fundamentals like data definitions and quality scanning routines.

Reporting is the what. Analytics is the why

Most HR leaders conflate reporting with analytics, and Ian argues the confusion quietly kills the credibility of the entire function. Reporting looks back at what happened; it is an extension of your tools, processes, and transactions. Analytics asks why something happened and what will probably happen next: hypotheses, models, experiments, research.

Reporting is looking back at what happened, and analytics is why it happened or what probably will happen.

Ian O'Keefe
Founder and CEO, Ikona Analytics

Even basic reporting is hard: counting humans consistently across an ATS, payroll, talent systems, contingent workforces, and a finance function that counts people differently than HR does. That difficulty lives in governance, definitions, and core platforms.

The trap comes when the ecosystem is less understood than leadership believes. Talented, high-priced researchers and data scientists get pulled into reporting reconciliation quagmires, which is not a good use of their skill set, and the analytics agenda stalls before it starts.

Scaling without losing integrity: lessons from Amazon

Supporting 400,000 corporate employees taught Ian that technology platforms and the governance mechanisms on top of them are part and parcel. At that scale, a central team cannot inspect everything, so the answer is accountability loops: data engineering routines that sweep for problems, plus practitioners embedded in the business lines with publish rights and access paths to inspect, root-cause, and remediate data close to where it is generated.

The balance to strike is matching governance, security permissions, and architecture access patterns to the humans actually doing analytical work across the organization, not just the central team.

HR's internet moment

On AI, Ian is direct about the scale of the shift: this is an internet moment, probably bigger than the one from 1999. The question companies asked then, how does this new technology redefine the way things get done, is exactly the question HR should be asking now.

His starting point is unexpected: most of how work actually gets done in HR is not encoded anywhere. It is tribal knowledge, tacit and sitting in the minds of people in the seat. The clues are the manual, out-of-product workflows every team runs: someone downloads from system A, emails it to a colleague, who sends it on. Those loops are signals of human effort doubling for what technology could do.

That is where AI genuinely helps: augmenting and accelerating the drudgery, consolidating information, spotting patterns, sending signals. He is measured on the jobs question. There is evidence of roles being displaced, and plenty of evidence that AI replaces tasks rather than whole humans. Understanding the tasks and the context around them is what determines whether an AI investment returns anything at all.

The missing glue: turning tacit knowledge into a data asset

Ian's diagnostic method at Ikona is deliberately human. Instead of leading with questions about data definitions and integrity, he asks people to talk about where they spend their time, which tools they use, and where the data they need shows up badly. Ten minutes of storytelling will surface a dozen data capabilities, history, and context that no system captures and no AI can access.

So much of how companies operate, and especially HR organizations, is tribal knowledge. It's tacit knowledge in the minds of people sitting in the seat.

Ian O'Keefe
Founder and CEO, Ikona Analytics

The next level for people analytics teams, he argues, is turning what might be dismissed as water-cooler talk into a data asset: capturing the spoken experience, digitizing it, and making it readable by machines so it can improve a workflow or guide an AI contextually. Change management is underestimated for exactly this reason. People analytics is less about the analytics than about the people who generate the data in the first place.

The 90-day non-negotiable

Before investing another dollar in analytics or AI workforce tools, Ian's non-negotiable for every CHRO is governance, ownership, and understanding of the data ecosystem. Do not expect AI to fix it. Every technology wave has carried the same temptation, from won't the internet fix this, to won't big data fix this, to let's build a machine learning model for that.

AI raises the stakes because it fails persuasively. Take a hard look at data foundations, governance, and ownership across the whole HR data ecosystem first, then pick small, high-value AI use cases that accelerate decisions from a solid foundation. That loop, decisions to data to foundation and back, is the whole playbook.

Where employee listening fits

Asked how real-time listening platforms strengthen the people data foundation rather than becoming another disconnected source, Ian points to the part of listening that analytics teams used to dread: open-ended comments. The unstructured spoken word, he argues, is where the truth lies more than in a quantified value.

What was out of reach until recently is now table stakes: capturing the shared experience of people and teams intentionally, digitizing and synthesizing it, and putting new kinds of metrics and pattern-spotting on top. Survey providers not moving in that direction ought to be. Platforms that connect regular pulse listening with employee sentiment analysis give organizations a way to transform, not just understand, and feed the people science foundation everything else builds on.

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Ian O'Keefe

About the guest

Ian O'Keefe

Founder and CEO, Ikona Analytics

Ian O'Keefe is a globally recognized HR executive, People Analytics leader, and AI start-up founder. He has 25 years of experience building scalable analytic solutions for Human Resources teams at top organizations, including Amazon, JPMorgan Chase, Google, and American Express. As a practitioner, he most recently served as Head of People Analytics at Amazon, leading a multidisciplinary team that deployed data products and scaled solutions for over 400,000 corporate employees.

In 2024, Ian founded Ikona Analytics. Ikona combines specialized forward-deployed consulting services, science, and software to help HR organizations transform for the AI era. Ian is also an HR Venture Advisor for SemperVirens Venture Capital and a strategic advisor to several Series A start-ups.

He holds a Bachelor's in Psychology from the University of Virginia, a Master's in Data Science from Northwestern University, and has studied AI and LLM product development at Stanford University. He is an Adjunct faculty member at New York University, a frequent speaker on analytics and AI, and has contributed to three books on People Analytics. Ian lives in the Washington, DC area with his wife and two children.

Full episode transcript

Season 06, Episode 16 · Ian O'Keefe with Darcy Mehta · 36 min

Frequently asked questions

What is the biggest mistake organizations make before starting people analytics?

Starting with data, tools, and outputs instead of the decisions those outputs should serve. Rushing to stand up reports and dashboards treats the symptom; the causes live upstream in production systems, workflows, and the points where transactions are generated. The grounding question for any request is what the leader would do differently if they knew the answer.

What is the difference between HR reporting and people analytics?

Reporting looks back at what happened and is an extension of your tools, processes, and transactions. Analytics asks why it happened and what will probably happen next, using hypotheses, models, and experiments. Conflating them pulls expensive data scientists into reporting reconciliation work and quietly erodes the credibility of the whole function.

What should a people analytics leader do first when HR data is fragmented?

Resist fixing everything at once. Treat data as an owned asset all the way back to where it originates, identify the key decisions leadership needs to make, then work backwards to shore up the most critical workflows and data flows with solid definitions and quality routines. Think big, start small.

What must a CHRO do before investing in AI workforce tools?

Establish governance, ownership, and understanding of the entire HR data ecosystem. New technology layered on old problems amplifies them, and AI will be confidently and eloquently wrong in convincing ways. Only after the foundation is understood should you pick small, high-value AI use cases that accelerate real decisions.

Will AI replace HR jobs?

The evidence points both ways: some roles are being displaced, but most of what AI replaces today is tasks rather than whole humans. The practical lens is augment and accelerate: automate the manual, out-of-product drudgery so people spend time on judgment and context, which AI cannot access without them.